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The DUPR Pickleball Rating System

Simply Pickleball Podcast with DUPR's Ben Van Hout

The DUPR pickleball rating system is taking tournament and college pickleball by storm. What is DUPR, and why is it changing the landscape of college pickleball?

We sat down with Ben Van Hout, Director of Operations at DUPR. Ben shares his incredible story of how DUPR is on track to become a billion-dollar business while paving the way for youth and collegiate pickleball. Don’t miss this inspiring video as Ben takes us through all his incredible achievements!




and so he said you know you want to come join the the duper team and and build something that’s going to be a billion


dollar business one day and I was like absolutely that sounds that’s right up my alley hi I’m Crystal Brown your host


and we get to speak today with Ben van Hout who is the director of operations at duper Dynamic Universal pickleball


rating he also happens to oversee all of the college pickleball programs as well


as some of the youth programs so we get to dive into what duper is what’s going on in college pickleball and all sorts


of other subjects related to pickleball don’t forget to subscribe and also


there’ll be lots of links in your show notes all right now to the show Welcome to Simply pickleball the podcast where


we discuss all things pickleball the fastest growing sport in America and around the world we’re interviewing the


founders industry leaders athletes lovers of the sport that are driving the


spectacular growth if you love pickleball as much as we do listen in awesome so thank you Ben so much for


joining today really excited to talk about all things pickleball in particular around Collegiate pickleball


the company you work for and duper and you know really just get into what you


guys are working on and and how much you’re working on it’s super exciting so but before we get started I’d love to


just learn about your history with the sport or Sports in general so um maybe you can tell us if you I know you have a


background in tennis so maybe you can start there yes yes I I used to be the

Ben Van Hout


tennis purist that would never touch pickleball but now I have ventured off


onto the I used to call it the dark side now it’s the good side um and and getting away from from tennis


a little bit I still love it but yeah pickleball is definitely number one but yeah so I started played tennis my


entire life played all the junior tournaments and then ended up playing college tennis had fun you know career


in college tennis um and then I started when covid hit a couple months after I started running


tournaments again on the universal tennis raiding platform which is a tennis company that basically does a


similar rating in tennis as duper does in pickleball um and so I started running these


tournaments just because there was such a demand I loved it I loved running events I loved bringing people together


you know and it was during covid too so I had to be super careful about all the


operations of the event which made me even more prepared to do events nowadays


is like there were things that I had Hoops I had to jump through that I never have to jump through now but it was good


that I like started out with that difficult time period so that is kind of how I got into this world and then


um a few of my friends who had worked with at utr they helped start duper and


so you know we I just got a call one day and he was like hey what what are you up to I’m like I am in Corporate America


sliding away but and so he said you know you want to come join the the duper team


and and build something that’s going to be a billion dollar business one day and I was like absolutely that sounds that’s


right up my alley so that’s kind of how I got into this crazy pickleball world uh that we all we all love and live in


this so let’s so just so I understand that everyone understands listening um duper

What is DUPR


stands for dynamic Universal pickleball ratings it has that name but as a company it does several things right so


it is a rating system but it’s also a technology company right exactly yeah I


mean we are right right now we’re the most accurate and we’re a global rating right so we’re in so many different


countries it we’re adding them every day um especially right now I’m sure


everybody else has seen such an international boom of the sport the last couple weeks um China made some


announcements we have great relations with in Australia and a bunch of other uh countries but yeah duper’s focused on


the rating but then we also have a couple other verticals we’re focused on minor league pickleball which is really


spreading the major league pickleball format right two men two women having


that fun team atmosphere instead of just playing in your normal gender doubles or


mixed doubles or singles right so that’s one alley or Avenue and then we’ve got our Collegiate pickleball which I’m sure


we’ll dive into that’s that’s my baby we have waterfalls which is kind of like the pathway for individuals right


from playing uh your your normal we we’re doing it open uh the brackets for


Nationals so that’s basically you start in your regional tournament and then you get a


golden or I think she’s calling them a platinum ticket two Nationals um for the waterfalls yeah we’re doing a


bunch of different things and we’re about to actually announce our Junior national championships very soon which


is amazing I want to dive into all those things actually so so starting with um


duper basically it’s an app and it’s it’s a rating system right so that has an app I guess the rating system has an


app you can download it on your phone and can you just explain a little bit about like I mean should everybody have


this on their phone yes everybody should have the duper app every single time you play a pickleball


game please get those scores in right we’re a data and analytics company right


so we need the more data the more accurate these ratings get um and obviously you know we want


everyone to to have the rating because you know when you go to a clinic and


it’s Advanced intermediate beginner there’s so many micro levels inside of


those and we just want to make sure that everybody has a good Baseline and a way


to get us all into the right groups because we all we all want to play the most competitive games right it’s always


nice to play somebody much farther below your level to boost your confidence or you know get your butt kicked to get


something that’s really good but you know it’s nice to have that competitive Baseline so I’m curious because like I


wasn’t a tennis player um and and there’s probably a lot of pickleball players that that didn’t play Rocket Sports before so this is the


first time they’ve ever had to think about how do I place myself right and so I love that you are offering this you


know to anyone and is it at any Tournament level people can go on and enter their scores and and

How is DUPR Calculated


I read a little bit about it so it both wins and losses as well as how many points you you get in the game matter


towards this algorithm yeah so right now it’s all about win or lose win or lose


and then the typer of result so you know a Rec score that let’s say you and I go


play um a quick game to 11 today um that score will count a little bit


less than if you are going to play an organized tournament that tournament result will will count a little bit more


right because we’re maybe more focused in the tournament rather than a wreck play game it’s more for fun it’s more


loose that’s kind of the way to think about it right now so when and I think I feel like I should have a whole episode


on the technical part of duper maybe I will but what was the incentive you know what was the initiative because maybe


there’s there’s other rating systems that exist but um you know your founder decided that to


create something more fair and quite frankly that’s sort of the way technology works right there were a lot of search engines before Google Google


felt like they could do a better job of of producing better results which they did actually and so I imagine at some


point your founder or or whoever decided to create duper thought like there’s a


better way and what was the problem they were trying to solve it was truly the sandbagging too like you you hit all the

What Problem is DUPR Solving


right points but he was tired of seeing the sandbagging happen you know the fact


that anybody could say that they’re a 3-5 in reality they’re probably a four


or five just because they want to win yeah um the title especially when there’s prize money on the line right


that’s that’s really important to know where someone is to put them in their appropriate bracket right because we


want to find out who is the best of those three fives and then they get to move up hopefully right with their


rating if they’re winning you know we don’t want somebody just continuing to go back and winning that same bracket


over and over again when they should be challenging themselves so that was the real problem that and I think we’re


still facing it in the pickleball Community we’re working on it as much as we can but if everyone had a duper we


really wouldn’t be facing that problem as frequently yeah and I think that’s that’s a really good point because there


is more money on the line and eventually college scholarships on the line and eventually sponsorship so


we’re at the at a nascent stage but we have an opportunity to build something right and technology has kind


of moved along that you can create some really cool algorithms so okay so I


should download the app everyone should have it and start playing in more tournaments um and when what are you


seeing for you know you you mentioned a bunch of pillars that that I guess the overarch company is duper and you have


pillars within it right so you you want to talk a little about college which I would love to talk about what what’s


your role for organizing things going on in Collegiate pickleball and maybe you know then we can go into you know what


we’re seeing today and what you hope to see yeah my goal is just to build obviously dupers with MLP as well which

Collegiate Pickleball


is the professional teams right it’s the NBA or NFL of pickleball so we’re really


trying to create the pipeline of players the future Pro players and also you know


builds the base of college pickleball out so that these teams can go ahead and


get scholarships prepped privately right um you know we’re not we haven’t the


NCAA hasn’t come in yet um and so we are trying to build out basically everything College pickleball


and again like the big picture is for these players to develop in college scholarships get their education paid


for the most important part of sports right in my opinion getting help for that education and then if they’re that


good we’ve got the pipeline into MLP you know and hopefully we get it to the point where the MLP draft is drafting


kids out of you know the University of North Carolina pickleball team rather than other Pro tournaments right


so that’s the real goal and goal for us right now that’s awesome um because right now the steady state of things


that there is no college pickleball that’s run by this it’s Club level right


right now we’ve got Club level College pickleball exactly yeah we are essentially College pickleball right now


and it is Club pickleball I’m trying to stay away from that word and call them programs because these are the these are


the varsity athletes theoretically for these these pickleball programs right


since there is no varsity right there’s no varsity yet but so I’m trying to like


yeah and make sure that the kids know that like they are the varsity athletes on campus for their pickleball teams


yeah well you know we we interviewed someone from U.S Collegiate pickleball we just had a real casual conversation about it


there’s a list of all the schools that have programs going right now um I’m sure that it’s heating up you


know I but I know there are hundreds of teams or I don’t want to say clubs now hundreds of friends already


 and he had some opinions about whether the NCAA or some other entity should run pickleball and I’m curious 


I was a college athlete you’re a college athlete um the way that tennis is run in


college should it be the same or are there some significant different differences in pickleball and maybe it


you know alike it should be like tennis but maybe some subtle differences


yeah I think one goal that we have right now is to flip the seasons to


potentially see a lot of Dual Sport athletes since the you know we’ve seen


from higher level tennis players transitioning into pickleball it’s it’s a extremely quick transition and they


for the most part are usually very very good um off the bat so that’s one thing that


we’d like to see and then in terms of answering kind of first question on should it look the same was that kind of


your where you’re going yeah yeah I’m curious do you think that it should look like tennis and should the NCAA be this


over for the body overseeing what’s going on in college I mean I think the NCAA is great at the organization with


the conferences and hosting national championships and and getting eligibility requirements done but I’ve


seen a shift ever since nil has become you know a major part of College


athletics where these kids are funding them their college careers often and


their Futures off of deals that are outside of the university and ncaa’s


kind of scope right so I I think the NCAA is really important


um to other sports but I do see them kind of dwindling a little bit and and


maybe they jump back on the horse and and help out more but I I see College


pickleball as as being something that could probably succeed with or without


um the NCAA yeah maybe it’s an opportunity for a different entity to oversee it I mean especially because


some of the top players right now um like Anna Lee Waters she’s she’s only 17 16 or 17.


um and she’s not going to want to pass up opportunities that could you know are served now for her like she doesn’t know


what her future holds so why would she give up sponsorship opportunities or things like that so it’ll be interesting


so okay so how do we get from where we are today with college programs not


clubs but we’ve got you know what what what would it look what does it look like at a typical college today


who you know who is it men and women are they competing against each other are they going to tournaments like what


what’s the State of the State right now right now we are following the MLP format so that means every team the top


team is two men two women um you know playing and they play a


women’s doubles line and then a men’s doubles line and then two mixed lines and then if they split they play


something called a dream breaker which is like a team singles um tiebreaker basically which is so


exciting and so much fun to watch if anybody hasn’t seen how a dream breaker works I would do a quick YouTube search


there electric I think it’s one of the coolest things that they introduced into the MLP format so that’s the format for


these tournaments that duper is running on a re-run them on a regional basis and then that we’ve got a national


championship a team national championship and an individual national championship


which is kind of similar to tennis and um a lot of these all the programs are


way different some schools have been able to secure a ton of funding through


their Rec Sports or their Club sport departments some have been getting sponsor you know private sponsors from


pickleball companies from local businesses and they’ve got a ton of money where they’re they’ve got


uniforms they’re traveling they’re flying to tournaments right like they’re


doing it right and you know some of them are actually in the final uh steps of getting locking down a couple College


scholarships which is like the craziest thing ever and it makes me so happy


because that’s really our mission is is to get kids money for further education


right right and to help this be the vehicle that gets them there again and then the other side of the coin is


there’s programs that don’t have anything really they’re just playing on their local park courts they’re throwing


down taped lines like we all have done at some time they’re rolling out the net you know unboxing it throwing it


together and then putting it in the shed and those schools are still competing again there’s a very wide spectrum right


now of of programs yeah it’s interesting yes everyone’s put some lines down I had some friends that were so eager to play


in San Francisco during covid that they found this little area taped it off but


it also happened to be where there were some homeless and so they would get like so yelling and screaming going on during


this game it was not related so yes that’s a that is that’s the problem for for a pickleball addict


you just want to play so so with these with these colleges and these um you know is duper getting involved with

College Pickleball Scholarships


each individual college or you know like is there an entity that can each College reach out and say hey we we don’t have a


a program that that’s well functioning yet can do you have like resources for us and I want to talk about that like


you know how can we help some of these colleges and then also are there besides that team format what if there’s a lot


of other people that want to compete in tournaments so can they do both so you can answer either one absolutely yes so


basically we want to be from start to finish in terms of getting these


programs from no money to being fully funded right to helping them develop


these scholarships so when somebody reaches out to us college at

17:55 is the email you know this could be a student who has never talked


to their Sport Club department but has two guys and two girls that are really interested in forming a team


and playing in our events and we’ll take them from we actually fund um these we give them a thousand dollar stipend


that they’re able to use for travel for equipment and anything else that they need to get


this uh program going so we start there um and kind of help them out and we’ve got a whole basically training program


on how to build a program from start to finish um so we help them on that front and

DUPR College Pickleball Tournaments


then we host the events right so we’re like here’s here’s your tournament calendar basically and then we also


introduce them to other universities that are local and more regionalized so


that they’re not spending their whole year traveling to all of our events that they can play amongst


themselves and build out a calendar and then ours is more like the bigger event the conference type Championship that


they need to play in to qualify for Nationals gotcha so that’s so there are you’re saying there’s Regional


tournaments that are not the MLP format of their their more traditional tournaments where a certain number of


people can play or they are that same format of two two women two men we are recommending to everyone that they’re PL


that is kind of the college format now is that two men two women and we also


think and to talk back about the NCAA is that this is going to going to be the


first sport that is a co-ed sport right which I think is the coolest thing ever


for sports and like it just shows how far what how far we’ve come you know from women not even having college


scholarships I don’t know how many years ago but like it the evolution of this to having a co-ed sport I think is more


it’s going to be so cool that you’re not cheering on the Women’s Basketball team and the men’s basketball team and not


and having to pick and choose which yeah right or even like you said the disparity in funding you know if you


have one team you know I I was a swimmer and we um it’s so individual your time


is your time and so it’s really easy to place people which I like that’s kind of what duper is trying to do like make it


really easy to place you where you should be in the lineup or whatever um but also we trained with the men and


I thought I felt that was really fair we would you know there was it it depended on your time so there were men and women


but we never competed against each other so this is really interesting because you have that that


um co-ed competition and um or not gender biased so that’s


awesome um and so but so there are tournaments that college players if they don’t have


a good program that they should try to go and be a part of right now right there’s there’s are there a lot of


tournaments are they all year round who who’s putting those types of tournaments on yes so we’re putting together our


regionals which we have 12 this year and then we have the team Nationals and the individual Nationals so we’ve got 14


total events um they’re during the fall and spring um our calendar


May look completely different next year because we want to either we’re thinking


about either doing more events so making them more localized or we’re going to


help the schools make sure that they have enough teams to play against uh during you know the fall or the spring


to the point where we only host a couple Regional or conference championships so


that they only have to travel um you know a good distance for one tournament right right so we’re kind of


in the in the phase of deciding what what’s the right strategy for these


these programs um at the end of the day because you know we had 12 regions that we had to


pick this year and not left out you know kind of like the Pacific Northwest


didn’t really get touched and then the the Northeast those were kind of our two


regions that we weren’t able to hit every other region was taken care of but we had to pick and choose so that’s been


the tough part is we got to decide either we hit every region or we only have a couple regionals so


that all the schools travel to those few tournaments right um so that’s that’s where we’re at right


now are you getting pinged all the time from different people interested in this course


I want to have as many events as possible because I think there’s so many teams and like the barrier to entry is


finding two guys and two girls who want to play Pickleball for a weekend we’re not we’re only charging 25 ahead


you know we’re focused on building this and we’re only charging them so that you know it because every every


time you have a free event people are more likely to you know kind of pull out so it’s kind of like a deposit that’s a


good business decision anyway no matter you should always charge them of course get it for free it’s looked at


differently so it’s only one team per school right like we actually have a


challenger bracket for our regional events we allow as many teams as they would like to bring okay and then we


also have a challenger bracket so if you can’t put together two men two women and you just want to play in open doubles


competition for the weekend we have that bracket as well and at Nationals even if your team didn’t get a bid we’re


inviting you to come play in The Challenger bracket because we want everybody there we want everybody experiencing the fun and the pizzazz of

DUPR National Pickleball Collegiate Championship


of a national championship so let’s talk about that so the when is the National


Championship or how many have you had so far yep so our team Nash Our First National


Championship ever was in 2022 that’s kind of where this all began you know it


was just kind of an idea that we had in the summer time we put it in November we


were going to pay for the travel of eight programs to get them out there it was just going to be a fun weekend you


know and it wasn’t there really wasn’t going to be anything else after it there was no plans and then we had 17 schools


show up right we’re like oh no we we’ve got we’ve got something so we got to


execute on it right and so now we’ve had I think we’re up to six regionals have


happened this year and then we have six more this fall and then we have our team Nationals in November November 17th


through the 19th in Atlanta at um the Peachtree Corners lifetime facility


which is the same place the next MLP event in September is going to be as


well so it’ll be the same show courts and a stadium and and everything so it’s


going to be very cool yeah I was talking to the the CEO of the DC pickleball team


and he was telling me that you know that future that Vision like of where are we


going to be building these big you know centers with Center Court and an amazing facilities in each City how you know


what’s exciting that Atlanta has that so how many teams do you expect or how many colleges do you think will be


represented colleges and universities will be represented yep so we’re giving out


what are we giving out 36 bids for colleges to be in the team bracket and


then you know I mean I can’t imagine how many different other colleges are going


to end up coming to the Challenger bracket especially because I have a feeling that a lot of these uh programs


are going to catch on to like towards the middle of the semester and be like oh crap we missed our regional basically


we can’t figure out how to get a bid for this year but we’re gonna go join the fun and and go join the party


Nationals right and then they’re going to get to experience them and then they’re going to get motivated to put


together you know more structured  team and organizations so right I can’t


imagine how many teams we’re gonna have represented so right now if if you are a

How to Put Together College Pickleball Team


college or you know a university you could put together your team of four and apply to be a part of it but what what


do you need to have proven right do you have you do you have to go to Regionals or do you have to have a duper score do


you need both of those things currently right now to qualify for Nationals you


need to get first or second in one of our regionals so that’s um so 24 we’re giving out 24 bids that


way and then we gave for our individual national championships which was in the spring we gave I think two schools had


players that won their individual event which guaranteed them a bid however they


still have to play and participate in a regional event so we’ve got a couple


we’re probably gonna have five to six maybe maybe eight bids I think it is I


need to go double check the math that we’re going to give out due to just them


putting in the effort to put together a really good program and they may have been close to qualifying and getting


first or second so that’s for this year and then again for next year that may slightly change and then in terms of the


Challenger back Market that’s open to anyone that is taking six credit hours at a university has a doubles partner


that they want to go play with so that’s kind of wide open if you’re any college kid is that Junior College an online


college or does it have all right okay yeah I mean all in I mean you heard it here you can go back you go back right


now oh God I know no it’s all right I’m already I’ve got daughters in college


I’ll let them take that so going back to Youth for a minute I’m interested in this because a couple of players that

Youth Pickleball


I’ve talked to including Lindsey Newman I I had a nice talk with her and she had played in middle school and actually


Matt Besler who I said became a soccer pro and then now works at chicken


and pickle he also played in middle school which is so our middle schools and and below are they already teaching


pickleball and if so like what you know what what should we expect in the years


to come you know k through eight are is every kid going to know how to play Pickleball I think this is going to be


one of those sports like basketball that really starts in the public school


systems and in any school systems in general I actually just texted my mom she she’s a kindergarten teacher and I


was like hey just you know out of out of the blue does your PE coach teach pickleball and she’s up in like rural


Georgia and so I expected definitely not like why would you ask that and she was


like yes they actually do so the fact that it’s it’s getting taught in such a rural area you know I I think is it


speaks to how fast the sport is growing and how easy it is to to get this sport


started right um you know if anybody has any extra cash or extra paddles or balls go to


your local elementary middle school high school and and donate those because I I think it’s


it’s going to be really valuable to those kids right yeah I mean it is there


is such a low barrier to entry and I do think that you know um and it’s a great equalizer of a sport


 I mean to be really good you still have to there’s there’s things um I think it’s really uh I’m glad


you’re bringing that up so you said that uh duper has some involvement in youth um what we’re in the youth space what do


you guys what do you have on the table Yeah I can’t I can’t say too much but the basic rundown is we’re working on a


junior pathway from start to finish right from the first


time you pick up a paddle you know running that event um we’ve got you know clubs on the


platform on the duper platform that are already running some Junior events um which is fantastic


um we we’re probably going to announce the national championship here pretty soon and kind of build it out just like


we did with college have a national championship get the interest right and


this is more High School level or or any any every yeah every every age is is is


great and I think this is going to be a sport that starts so early like like a soccer you know where it might be the


first sport that some of these kids play yeah um to your point it’s it’s low-beared


entry and it’s it’s easy to get confidence right and feel good about yourself because of how well you can


play right why do you think that um you know ping pongs similarly kind of easy


right and it certainly has taken off in certain countries I know I of Asian countries but why do you think


pickleball this is just your opinion versus something like Ping Pong like what what’s the difference and


and then I’d love to talk about what’s going on in in China and some other countries that you know about we’re definitely on the hype train right


now right we’ve got I mean especially at MLP you know team owners like Drake


Lebron James Tom Brady you know Kim klysters she was a pro tennis player


like there’s so many different groups of people that are getting involved in investing in pickleball I think we’re


seeing those folks getting in it again you to your point it is easy to play ping pong and you move around and it’s


anybody can throw it in their basement but I think also getting outside and like moving around a little bit more it


has that little extra edge of toughness right but then again it’s it’s not


tennis or like golf to the point where it’s taking so many hours to get at like


a baseline so that’s a good question though I’ve never really thought about that I mean I guess you know one of my


opinions is is or just as you’re talking about it I feel like tennis and golf are often played at country clubs not always


there’s public courses for both for sure there’s tennis courts all over cities there’s there’s golf courses that are


public but in order to be good enough to feel comfortable playing you really have


to dedicate yourself to both those Sports and again like still have that cachet of what was played


um and I think pickleball doesn’t have that it just has more of like a backyard


feel like anyone can play it but I love that duper and the MLP are bringing some


some real structure and which I think is needed and again like to your point about a pathway for certain kids I you


know again whether it’s confidence or whether it’s a pathway to scholarship I think it can be good for for anyone


adults too um so so what are you seeing internationally

International Pickleball


you mentioned that I really haven’t done a lot of research a little bit as I’ve been trying to think about where I


would like to go and travel and play all the time but what are you seeing in terms of the sort of structure being put


together in other countries yeah so I I think it depends on every country um you you would see this in the tennis


world too each Federation kind of has its own vision for the sport but what


I’ve seen that’s different from tennis is that each of these federations is kind of trying to come together more and


there’s more of a Vibe of rising Tides raises all boats


rather than in the past you know everybody’s trying to outdo each other you know I’m seeing a lot of collaboration amongst a lot of the Asian


countries as well again Australia’s humping and they’ve been there since really the beginning maybe not the


beginning but they’ve been doing a good job for a long time are they are they having


um the same similar type competitions are they using duper are you guys in touch yeah yeah we’re we’re in touch


with Australia they’ve got plenty of events that have been on the platform they’ve got a ton of people that are rated


we also just came back from the English open we had a few folks out there


and they were getting the ratings in that that tournament was huge


there’s a lot of Demands elsewhere I think we’re running into padell and a


lot of um International countries right Mexico is really David Patel a lot of


the other European nations are big with padell so again we’re fighting that a little bit I think in terms of adoption


but that still that was more of a country club sport it’s expensive it has like a wooden is it played on a


court as well I played on a court that’s a little bit uh longer I think a little bit longer a


little bit wider difficult I may be off a little bit and then it’s got the glass around it yeah


plexiglass so that’s expensive to build a I think it’s three to four times more expensive to build yeah a padel


court um so I’m not scared of them I just think early adopters and like the high


trains are on the hype train for Patel because padell’s growing rapidly well you know there’s it’s not the first


racket I mean there’s you know racquetball there’s paddle tennis there you know we’ve had other sports


you know the more the merrier but it’s just an interesting different vertical um so what’s next for you what are you

What’s Next for DUPR


working on what’s your next thing and um and what should we expect from duper just coming up so we’re basically just


trying to outline what does 2024 look like we have you know obviously super


successful tour of 2023 you know the national champion chips is again anybody


I can get out to Atlanta and wants to watch a college sport that in my opinion


is the most electric like watching it and being there and again pickleball is


so you’re so close to your opponent like just there’s this energy going back and forth constantly so you know I think we


should and we’re going to fill those stands too so anybody that can get out to Atlanta you know lots of direct busiest airport in the world so lots of


direct flights there um get there for it that’s kind of what we’re working on just kind of what 2024


looks like and then we’re obviously trying to bring on as many sponsors as possible Right the more


money duper can raise sponsor-wise we’re reinvesting everything we’re dumping everything back into uh building this


out and supporting these programs [Music] um so you know it’s it’s a win-win for


for any sponsors that are interested in working with us um so yeah that’s what kind of what we’re working on right now can a player


right now if they are on the PPA tour or if they are playing MLP can they all


connect and they’re in college can they still participate in the in the Nationals right now yes Colin Schick is


actually the great story of his first you know kind of pickable organized


event was with our national championship last year he was a part of the University of North Carolina who won it


and now he’s on um the Florida MLP team um so he’s still eligible to to compete


this year we have had some conversations and gone back and forth should Pro players be eligible but again we want


everybody to grow this sport as much as possible especially at the Collegiate


side so we we like the the camera attention that Colin’s getting so maybe


other kids that are playing an MLP or PPA will hop over yeah I mean we’re Reinventing you know and it’s with more


information same with duper so okay so in summary everyone should download the app and get their scores so that the



algorithm has more data and more information everyone should get to Atlanta in the fall


and everyone should donate their old paddles um well songs are not broken to their


local schools and that’s awesome well I’m thank you so much for explaining everything that’s going on um hopefully


I’ll be able to attend some of the events and really excited about what duper’s doing and I’ll have to have a whole another session just on the the


app itself that I think it’s really important that I know so in Building Technology myself that the the fastest


way you can make Improvement is to have people use it and get some feedback I don’t know if you know this that


Facebook didn’t have the like button for four years after they launched because they had a lot of complaints that people


didn’t want to write comments they just wanted to like it so interesting yeah so technology improves with more


use so let’s hope that happens and then similarly with um you know sort of Designing a college sport from the


bottom from the ground up it’s really exciting that you’re leading that and that you guys are really trying to and


it’s moving fast you have it hasn’t been that long right I mean a couple years absolutely yeah it has gone by so


quickly um the fact that you know last year was our first event ever again the support has been incredible and and if anybody


out there is looking to support College pickleball in any way please email us at College


you know we’re open for any discussions too on ideas or thoughts you know we’re an open book and like you


said we’ve got the paintbrush right now so we’re trying to paint the the prettiest picture and and the best picture for college pickleball that’s


awesome well thank you Ben this has been great I really appreciate it hopefully I’ll check in with you in a few months


and see where we are and I’ll put all those links in the show notes and um thanks so make sure you subscribe


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